Comments on: You Have A.D.D./A.D.H.D. and You Will NOT Be Rich and Famous http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm If A.D.D. Is A Gift...Can I Return It For Something Else? Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:44:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25234 Robin Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:02:22 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25234 Deb, You are a VERY creepy person. Someday I hope you end up face to face with someone suicidal over their ADHD 'gifts'. Oh, I'm SO SORRY, I mean 'whiners'! That IS what you call overwhelmed and hopeless individuals, right? Deb,
You are a VERY creepy person. Someday I hope you end up face to face with someone suicidal over their ADHD 'gifts'. Oh, I'm SO SORRY, I mean 'whiners'! That IS what you call overwhelmed and hopeless individuals, right?

]]> By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-1#comment-25230 Robin Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:39:38 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25230 Bryan, after reading your post, I still have no idea what you mean by 'gift'. Soldiers with amputations 'carry on' because they have to. They're also ACKNOWLEDGED as having limitations (unlike ADHD, where far too many quacks still deny it exists). Are you saying it's a 'gift' to you to work with such inspiring individuals? Well, then that's your gift. But does everything have to revolve around YOU? They get support from families, peers, and various forms of therapy because THEY HAVE LIMITATIONS. They wouldn't have to do all of this if there was some kind of 'benefit' or gift from their situation. Amputee soldiers have to be medically discharged from the service, they've lost their livelihood and possibly a life they once loved. IS THAT A BENEFIT? It is most unfortunate that mentally-disabled veterans make an overwhelming proportion of the current homeless population. That fact, in my opinion, is due to our country's heartless 'head-burying' in response to the chronic problems mental illness involves. ADHD and other limitations ARE NOT GIFTS. Aknowledging them as the limiters they are allows us to let go of the denial and get to work addressing and adapting to these limiters rather than just 'burying our heads' and spewing off about stupid 'gifts'. Bryan, after reading your post, I still have no idea what you mean by 'gift'. Soldiers with amputations 'carry on' because they have to. They're also ACKNOWLEDGED as having limitations (unlike ADHD, where far too many quacks still deny it exists). Are you saying it's a 'gift' to you to work with such inspiring individuals? Well, then that's your gift. But does everything have to revolve around YOU? They get support from families, peers, and various forms of therapy because THEY HAVE LIMITATIONS. They wouldn't have to do all of this if there was some kind of 'benefit' or gift from their situation. Amputee soldiers have to be medically discharged from the service, they've lost their livelihood and possibly a life they once loved. IS THAT A BENEFIT?
It is most unfortunate that mentally-disabled veterans make an overwhelming proportion of the current homeless population. That fact, in my opinion, is due to our country's heartless 'head-burying' in response to the chronic problems mental illness involves. ADHD and other limitations ARE NOT GIFTS. Aknowledging them as the limiters they are allows us to let go of the denial and get to work addressing and adapting to these limiters rather than just 'burying our heads' and spewing off about stupid 'gifts'.

]]> By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-1#comment-25228 Robin Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:18:49 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25228 What planet do you live on, lady? Mental illness does NOT "does not facilitate creativity but interferes with it" (<a href="http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all?content=10.1080/10400419009534352)." target="_blank">http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all?c...</a> Creativity and mental illness is also associated with a higher risk of suicide and alcoholism, but I noticed you didn't mention those as 'gifts' either. In fact, ADHD itself is associated with a far greater risk of alcoholism, drug abuse and incarceration than the general population. But I guess we always have to look on the 'bright' side, don't we? Am I allowed to hate my ADHD when I'm lying on the floor with a bullet in my brain, as so many 'artistic' but mentally ill artists have ended up?! What planet do you live on, lady? Mental illness does NOT "does not facilitate creativity but interferes with it"
(http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all?c... Creativity and mental illness is also associated with a higher risk of suicide and alcoholism, but I noticed you didn't mention those as 'gifts' either. In fact, ADHD itself is associated with a far greater risk of alcoholism, drug abuse and incarceration than the general population. But I guess we always have to look on the 'bright' side, don't we? Am I allowed to hate my ADHD when I'm lying on the floor with a bullet in my brain, as so many 'artistic' but mentally ill artists have ended up?!

]]> By: Jeff http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25237 Jeff Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:35:26 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25237 Robin, Please be careful....don't attack too vociferously. We can have a little parry here and there but...just be careful. Robin,
Please be careful….don't attack too vociferously. We can have a little parry here and there but…just be careful.

]]> By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25233 Robin Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:58:35 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25233 And where IS the gift to be unwrapped with leg muscle atrophy? Can you reveal that? Or is it just a 'mystery' requiring thousands of dollars (which even you couldn't afford, apparently) to 'unwrap'?. They can't tell what the 'gift' is? And where IS the gift to be unwrapped with leg muscle atrophy? Can you reveal that? Or is it just a 'mystery' requiring thousands of dollars (which even you couldn't afford, apparently) to 'unwrap'?. They can't tell what the 'gift' is?

]]> By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25232 Robin Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:52:57 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25232 Just because science disagrees with your own 'insight' doesn't mean it's wrong. People KNEW the earth was flat, and some are still not dissuaded by messy facts and statistics. Guess what, sweetie? YOU ARE A STATISTIC, AND YOU SURE AS SHERLOCK AIN'T SPECIAL. Btw, science is NOT saying you're not creative, but it is saying your ADHD is hindereds your creativity. The mass of artists dead by their own hands can attest to that. And who says science has to be 'empowering'? Why is it you find a scientific theory you disagree with 'disempowering'? Why are you making everything about YOU? Just because science disagrees with your own 'insight' doesn't mean it's wrong. People KNEW the earth was flat, and some are still not dissuaded by messy facts and statistics. Guess what, sweetie? YOU ARE A STATISTIC, AND YOU SURE AS SHERLOCK AIN'T SPECIAL. Btw, science is NOT saying you're not creative, but it is saying your ADHD is hindereds your creativity. The mass of artists dead by their own hands can attest to that.
And who says science has to be 'empowering'? Why is it you find a scientific theory you disagree with 'disempowering'? Why are you making everything about YOU?

]]> By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-1#comment-25231 Robin Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:46:45 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25231 Deb, you obviously know more about ADHD than I do, since you're so read-up on Hallowell. If you ever discover a way to get rid of ADHD, would you contact me and let me know? If I'm allowed to 'celebrate' something, then I have the freedom to 'return to sender', too. I adapt around it the best I can, but I really don't want this. Deb, you obviously know more about ADHD than I do, since you're so read-up on Hallowell. If you ever discover a way to get rid of ADHD, would you contact me and let me know? If I'm allowed to 'celebrate' something, then I have the freedom to 'return to sender', too. I adapt around it the best I can, but I really don't want this.

]]> By: Robin http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-1#comment-25229 Robin Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:27:24 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25229 Tara, according to the statistics, you are far more likely to lead a DOOMED LIFE. Divorce, drug abuse, alcoholism, incarceration, unemployment, etc, etc,..... And "The research show's that there are no benefits of the condition itself. That's not the same as saying there are no benefits what so ever to having the condition." WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN?? It's like saying there's no benefit to having the 'condition' of cerebral palsy, but hey, there's lots of benefits to be had with spacticity and a life on crutches! Make some sense, lady! And none of the people here would have ANY voice on your forum, so don't talk to us about 'those of us with a voice'. Maybe if Hallowell would disclose more of this 'work' you hint at, it wouldn't be so easy to drag him (and you) though the proverbial mud. Tara, according to the statistics, you are far more likely to lead a DOOMED LIFE. Divorce, drug abuse, alcoholism, incarceration, unemployment, etc, etc,…..
And "The research show's that there are no benefits of the condition itself. That's not the same as saying there are no benefits what so ever to having the condition." WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN?? It's like saying there's no benefit to having the 'condition' of cerebral palsy, but hey, there's lots of benefits to be had with spacticity and a life on crutches! Make some sense, lady! And none of the people here would have ANY voice on your forum, so don't talk to us about 'those of us with a voice'. Maybe if Hallowell would disclose more of this 'work' you hint at, it wouldn't be so easy to drag him (and you) though the proverbial mud.

]]> By: You Have A.D.D. And You Can Succeed: A Rebuttal By “Paradigm Of Thought” – Part I | Jeff's A.D.D. Mind http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25182 You Have A.D.D. And You Can Succeed: A Rebuttal By “Paradigm Of Thought” – Part I | Jeff's A.D.D. Mind Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:49:34 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25182 [...] Bit of Background: A lengthy comment on the blog post You Have A.D.D./A.D.H.D. and You Will NOT Be Rich and Famous resulted in a lengthy [...] [...] Bit of Background: A lengthy comment on the blog post You Have A.D.D./A.D.H.D. and You Will NOT Be Rich and Famous resulted in a lengthy [...]

]]> By: Paradigm Of Thought http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm/comment-page-2#comment-25101 Paradigm Of Thought Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:26:15 +0000 http://jeffsaddmind.com/you-have-addadhd-and-you-will-not-be-rich-and-famous-466.htm#comment-25101 Thank you your response to my post. I was hoping that you would read it. I'm sorry for my lack in response but I first of all had not noticed until friday that Jeff had responded to my post, and because of my busy life was unable to complete my response until last night. As per Jeff's request I have sent it to him so he may post it here (he made a very compelling point that the argument started here, so it should continue here). I hope to see it posted soon. Please continue to follow this argument as I no doubt trust you will have interesting counterpoints to my rebuttal. - Paradigm of Thought Thank you your response to my post. I was hoping that you would read it. I'm sorry for my lack in response but I first of all had not noticed until friday that Jeff had responded to my post, and because of my busy life was unable to complete my response until last night. As per Jeff's request I have sent it to him so he may post it here (he made a very compelling point that the argument started here, so it should continue here). I hope to see it posted soon.

Please continue to follow this argument as I no doubt trust you will have interesting counterpoints to my rebuttal.

- Paradigm of Thought

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