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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://jeffsaddmind.com/the-gift-versus-the-curse-368.htm/comment-page-1#comment-26766</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks  for finding this link. Now I know why the guy&#039;s name was a bit familiar to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks  for finding this link. Now I know why the guy&#8217;s name was a bit familiar to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
		<link>http://jeffsaddmind.com/the-gift-versus-the-curse-368.htm/comment-page-1#comment-26765</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this is a little off topic but here is a link to an article about the misuse of psychological principles by the military and cites the Martin Seligman torture escapade.  Disgusting.  Just in case anyone is interested in it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bryant-welch/fort-hood-a-harbinger-of_b_356318.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this is a little off topic but here is a link to an article about the misuse of psychological principles by the military and cites the Martin Seligman torture escapade.  Disgusting.  Just in case anyone is interested in it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bryant-welch/fort-hood-a-harbinger-of_b_356318.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bryant-welch/fort-hood-a-harbinger-of_b_356318.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: betsy davenport, phd</title>
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		<dc:creator>betsy davenport, phd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 20:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we are all rendered more effective at living if we accept ADHD and dispense with value judgments, defenses, etc.  I have to mention Martin Seligman, though, in this way:

So far as I know, his Positive Paychology is little different from Norman Vincent Peale&#039;s Positive Thinking, in its lack of research, its appeal and its waxing and waning popularity.  Being optimistic or pessimistic are likely brain traits and even if we can change our habits of thinking, it is unclear whether that changes an inborn tendency.

Martin Seligman is the guy who worked for the military in such a way that they used his theory on learned helplessness to assist in developing their torture protocols at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Though he insists he had nothing to do with torture, he apparently did not refuse to teach them what they wanted to learn and he had to have known their purpose.

There has been a long and unpleasant conflict in the American Psychological Association over this.  Ugly, and makes me (perhaps unfairly) reject pretty much anything the guy says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we are all rendered more effective at living if we accept ADHD and dispense with value judgments, defenses, etc.  I have to mention Martin Seligman, though, in this way:</p>
<p>So far as I know, his Positive Paychology is little different from Norman Vincent Peale&#8217;s Positive Thinking, in its lack of research, its appeal and its waxing and waning popularity.  Being optimistic or pessimistic are likely brain traits and even if we can change our habits of thinking, it is unclear whether that changes an inborn tendency.</p>
<p>Martin Seligman is the guy who worked for the military in such a way that they used his theory on learned helplessness to assist in developing their torture protocols at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Though he insists he had nothing to do with torture, he apparently did not refuse to teach them what they wanted to learn and he had to have known their purpose.</p>
<p>There has been a long and unpleasant conflict in the American Psychological Association over this.  Ugly, and makes me (perhaps unfairly) reject pretty much anything the guy says.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, well said Mike. Great observation and I concur w/your feelings. Thanks for bringing what might otherwise have remained subconscious discomfort, out into the light; for naming it and describing it eloquently.
Zoë Kessler, Blogger, ADHD from A to Zoë
http://blogs.psychcentral.com/adhd-zoe/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, well said Mike. Great observation and I concur w/your feelings. Thanks for bringing what might otherwise have remained subconscious discomfort, out into the light; for naming it and describing it eloquently.<br />
Zoë Kessler, Blogger, ADHD from A to Zoë<br />
<a href="http://blogs.psychcentral.com/adhd-zoe/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.psychcentral.com/adhd-zoe/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually come to similar conclusion (see: http://bit.ly/caSPtx) ADHD just &quot;is&quot; and there is nothing to be gained by calling it a gift or a curse. The debate makes no sense. However, I am not the one who calls it a gift. That&#039;s a term I will never use (unless I&#039;m quoting/paraphrasing someone else&#039;s work). 

I do, though, have a problem with the optmism/pessimism dichotomy. This does little more than reproduce the market mentality of winners/losers and places the onus on individual attitudes, thereby through a sleight of hand converting the issue into a moral problem (&quot;if only you had the willpower to be optimistic&quot;). I prefer the word &quot;realism,&quot; to know what the problem is so that I can come up with the right solution. 

My day job is being a problem solver, usually within the context of software issues. To solve the problem requires, not optimism, not pessimism, but realism. I must know what the problem is. I must know the extent of the problem. Only then can I come up with a solution. More and more I&#039;ve been applying that type of thinking to my ADHD and I am finding solutions. If you want to call that optimism, that&#039;s fine. But I will take exception with calling the search for and examination of the problem itself as being pessimism. That&#039;s not pessimism. That&#039;s finding the root cause of a problem. In my day job, I just call that troubleshooting which describes the process without any moral or judgemental overtones. 

- sen via crackberry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually come to similar conclusion (see: <a href="http://bit.ly/caSPtx" >http://bit.ly/caSPtx</a>) ADHD just &#8220;is&#8221; and there is nothing to be gained by calling it a gift or a curse. The debate makes no sense. However, I am not the one who calls it a gift. That&#8217;s a term I will never use (unless I&#8217;m quoting/paraphrasing someone else&#8217;s work). </p>
<p>I do, though, have a problem with the optmism/pessimism dichotomy. This does little more than reproduce the market mentality of winners/losers and places the onus on individual attitudes, thereby through a sleight of hand converting the issue into a moral problem (&#8220;if only you had the willpower to be optimistic&#8221;). I prefer the word &#8220;realism,&#8221; to know what the problem is so that I can come up with the right solution. </p>
<p>My day job is being a problem solver, usually within the context of software issues. To solve the problem requires, not optimism, not pessimism, but realism. I must know what the problem is. I must know the extent of the problem. Only then can I come up with a solution. More and more I&#8217;ve been applying that type of thinking to my ADHD and I am finding solutions. If you want to call that optimism, that&#8217;s fine. But I will take exception with calling the search for and examination of the problem itself as being pessimism. That&#8217;s not pessimism. That&#8217;s finding the root cause of a problem. In my day job, I just call that troubleshooting which describes the process without any moral or judgemental overtones. </p>
<p>- sen via crackberry</p>
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		<title>By: jumpeight</title>
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		<dc:creator>jumpeight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just some thoughts from Martin Seligman (founder of Positive Psy at UPENN) re: learned optimism:

The benefits of an optimistic outlook on are many — optimists are higher achievers and have better overall health. Pessimism, on the other hand, is much more common. Pessimists are more likely to give up in the face of adversity or to suffer from depression. In his book, Seligman invites pessimists to learn to be optimists by thinking about their reactions to adversity in a new way. The resulting optimism — one that grew from pessimism — is a learned optimism.

Other differences exist between pessimists and optimists in the areas of permanence, pervasiveness, hope, and personalization.

Permanence: Optimistic people believe bad events to be more temporary than permanent and bounce back quickly from failure, whereas others may take longer periods to recover or may never recover. They also believe good things happen for reasons that are permanent, rather than seeing the transient nature of positive events.
Pervasiveness: Optimistic people compartmentalize helplessness, whereas pessimistic people assume that failure in one area of life means failure in life as a whole. Optimistic people also allow good events to brighten every area of their lives rather than just the particular area in which the event occurred.
Hope: Optimists point to specific temporary causes for negative events; pessimists point to permanent causes
Personalization: Optimists blame bad events on causes outside of themselves, whereas pessimists blame themselves for events that occur. Optimists are therefore generally more confident. Optimists also quickly internalize positive events while pessimists externalize them.
The optimist&#039;s outlook on failure can thus be summarized as &quot;What happened was an unlucky situation (not personal), and really just a set back (not permanent) to for this particular endeavor of mine (not pervasive)&quot;.

rather than joining the is it a gift, is it terrible...how about just &quot;is&quot; and approachingn life with adhd or anything else for that matter, with optimism and just move on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just some thoughts from Martin Seligman (founder of Positive Psy at UPENN) re: learned optimism:</p>
<p>The benefits of an optimistic outlook on are many — optimists are higher achievers and have better overall health. Pessimism, on the other hand, is much more common. Pessimists are more likely to give up in the face of adversity or to suffer from depression. In his book, Seligman invites pessimists to learn to be optimists by thinking about their reactions to adversity in a new way. The resulting optimism — one that grew from pessimism — is a learned optimism.</p>
<p>Other differences exist between pessimists and optimists in the areas of permanence, pervasiveness, hope, and personalization.</p>
<p>Permanence: Optimistic people believe bad events to be more temporary than permanent and bounce back quickly from failure, whereas others may take longer periods to recover or may never recover. They also believe good things happen for reasons that are permanent, rather than seeing the transient nature of positive events.<br />
Pervasiveness: Optimistic people compartmentalize helplessness, whereas pessimistic people assume that failure in one area of life means failure in life as a whole. Optimistic people also allow good events to brighten every area of their lives rather than just the particular area in which the event occurred.<br />
Hope: Optimists point to specific temporary causes for negative events; pessimists point to permanent causes<br />
Personalization: Optimists blame bad events on causes outside of themselves, whereas pessimists blame themselves for events that occur. Optimists are therefore generally more confident. Optimists also quickly internalize positive events while pessimists externalize them.<br />
The optimist&#8217;s outlook on failure can thus be summarized as &#8220;What happened was an unlucky situation (not personal), and really just a set back (not permanent) to for this particular endeavor of mine (not pervasive)&#8221;.</p>
<p>rather than joining the is it a gift, is it terrible&#8230;how about just &#8220;is&#8221; and approachingn life with adhd or anything else for that matter, with optimism and just move on?</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Kessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Kessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the winner is....Curse! For me. Why? I have some, what I thought were gifts, but are only things I just happen to be able to do. If I need to read a book, or ask anybody to show/tell me how to use them...then it&#039;s not a gift.

 A gift would be, not needing to say A.D.D. gave me a gift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the winner is&#8230;.Curse! For me. Why? I have some, what I thought were gifts, but are only things I just happen to be able to do. If I need to read a book, or ask anybody to show/tell me how to use them&#8230;then it&#8217;s not a gift.</p>
<p> A gift would be, not needing to say A.D.D. gave me a gift.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was diagnosed 2 years ago at 36.  I found your blog tonight (while surfing the internet instead of what I&#039;m supposed to be doing ... SLEEPING).  I appreciate the absence of bs here.  It&#039;s like having a glass of milk after choking down 3 gallons of ice cream.

~Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was diagnosed 2 years ago at 36.  I found your blog tonight (while surfing the internet instead of what I&#8217;m supposed to be doing &#8230; SLEEPING).  I appreciate the absence of bs here.  It&#8217;s like having a glass of milk after choking down 3 gallons of ice cream.</p>
<p>~Heather</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

You said;&quot;I always felt different and bored very easily&quot;. Your not the &quot;Lone Ranger&quot; here bro. Keep reading and take caution about what you read, is my best advice. Look at &quot;A Fraud&quot; post/comments etc. You may find it interesting..You/we are at a very good blog to learn about other A.D.D.ers thoughts and revelations.

Jeff,

&quot;She turned me into a Newt!&quot; From &quot;Monty Python And The Holy Grail&quot;. Love that movie!

Scott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>You said;&#8221;I always felt different and bored very easily&#8221;. Your not the &#8220;Lone Ranger&#8221; here bro. Keep reading and take caution about what you read, is my best advice. Look at &#8220;A Fraud&#8221; post/comments etc. You may find it interesting..You/we are at a very good blog to learn about other A.D.D.ers thoughts and revelations.</p>
<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>&#8220;She turned me into a Newt!&#8221; From &#8220;Monty Python And The Holy Grail&#8221;. Love that movie!</p>
<p>Scott.</p>
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