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	<description>If ADD Is A Gift...Can I Return It For Something Else?</description>
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		<title>By: Flooded With Thoughts &#124; Jeff&#39;s A.D.D. Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flooded With Thoughts &#124; Jeff&#39;s A.D.D. Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of purpose in order to &#8220;succeed&#8221; in life. We delude ourselves (ADD really means Adult Delusional Disorder) when we assume that our inability to maintain focus is the perfect complement to our fractured, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of purpose in order to &#8220;succeed&#8221; in life. We delude ourselves (ADD really means Adult Delusional Disorder) when we assume that our inability to maintain focus is the perfect complement to our fractured, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://jeffsaddmind.com/adult-add-as-a-form-of-madness-498.htm/comment-page-2#comment-21819</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I just want to shout out, &quot;Yes...I am out of mind! Now please...leave me alone!&quot; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I just want to shout out, &#8220;Yes&#8230;I am out of mind! Now please&#8230;leave me alone!&#8221; <img src='http://jeffsaddmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hutson</title>
		<link>http://jeffsaddmind.com/adult-add-as-a-form-of-madness-498.htm/comment-page-2#comment-21806</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times has someone said to me; &quot;You gotta be out of your F***ing mind to think you can do this or that.....&quot; ? Well I thought about this today, while I was doing one of those things. If I could get &quot;Out of my mind&quot;, it would be blessing! But if responded to them with that statement, it may confirm (to them) that I am.

Does this make sense? Or am I &quot;Mad&quot;? Or both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times has someone said to me; &#8220;You gotta be out of your F***ing mind to think you can do this or that&#8230;..&#8221; ? Well I thought about this today, while I was doing one of those things. If I could get &#8220;Out of my mind&#8221;, it would be blessing! But if responded to them with that statement, it may confirm (to them) that I am.</p>
<p>Does this make sense? Or am I &#8220;Mad&#8221;? Or both?</p>
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		<title>By: Artemus Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artemus Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, ADD/ADHD is not easily defined in individuals. The variance of symptom strength and ancillary issues makes it almost impossible to pigeon hole the phenomenon.

Thom Hartmann provides a perspective that does not jive with conventional ADD/ADHD theory. What works for him should not be discarded, and what works for you should not be as well.

Sharing info, such as is done on this blog, allows people to formulate their own game plans, whether they are people who have ADD/ADHD or people who deal with those who have ADD/ADHD. Sharing info is much different than promulgating absolutism. I do not believe Hartmann does that, but I could be wrong (have been many times before).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, ADD/ADHD is not easily defined in individuals. The variance of symptom strength and ancillary issues makes it almost impossible to pigeon hole the phenomenon.</p>
<p>Thom Hartmann provides a perspective that does not jive with conventional ADD/ADHD theory. What works for him should not be discarded, and what works for you should not be as well.</p>
<p>Sharing info, such as is done on this blog, allows people to formulate their own game plans, whether they are people who have ADD/ADHD or people who deal with those who have ADD/ADHD. Sharing info is much different than promulgating absolutism. I do not believe Hartmann does that, but I could be wrong (have been many times before).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abigail,

I have probably analyzed ever thing analyzable. But from what I&#039;ve learned so far about us ADDers is,,,, all ADDers are different, and some of those mental illness,behaviour,attitude..etc things can show themselves more often or more severe, in some ADDers.

Scott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abigail,</p>
<p>I have probably analyzed ever thing analyzable. But from what I&#8217;ve learned so far about us ADDers is,,,, all ADDers are different, and some of those mental illness,behaviour,attitude..etc things can show themselves more often or more severe, in some ADDers.</p>
<p>Scott.</p>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question:  Has anyone ever analysed the relationship between ADD/ADHD and malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder?  

Sociopathy and psychopathy are extreme forms of narcissism.  It is documented that sociopaths (those who lack empathy for anyone besides themselves), have 25% more white matter in the prefrontal cortex than non-sociopaths, and other issues in the 

I know all sorts of ADD/ADHD people who have huge hearts for others...and are very other-centered, (as opposed to a sociopath&#039;s utter self-centeredness...and clever sociopaths are so clever that they have surface behaviors that will fool others into thinking that they care about others...but when tested, they always choose themselves first), and so, 

I want to be very clear that I know that ADD/ADHD people are NOT narcissists or sociopaths, but I wonder, is the reverse true?  Do most malignant narcissists and/or sociopaths also have ADD/ADHD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question:  Has anyone ever analysed the relationship between ADD/ADHD and malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder?  </p>
<p>Sociopathy and psychopathy are extreme forms of narcissism.  It is documented that sociopaths (those who lack empathy for anyone besides themselves), have 25% more white matter in the prefrontal cortex than non-sociopaths, and other issues in the </p>
<p>I know all sorts of ADD/ADHD people who have huge hearts for others&#8230;and are very other-centered, (as opposed to a sociopath&#8217;s utter self-centeredness&#8230;and clever sociopaths are so clever that they have surface behaviors that will fool others into thinking that they care about others&#8230;but when tested, they always choose themselves first), and so, </p>
<p>I want to be very clear that I know that ADD/ADHD people are NOT narcissists or sociopaths, but I wonder, is the reverse true?  Do most malignant narcissists and/or sociopaths also have ADD/ADHD?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E,

I agree that it can&#039;t be (shouldn&#039;t be) all doom-and-gloom. If it was...well...I wouldn&#039;t be plugging away at this blog and many people wouldn&#039;t be leaving comments. Let&#039;s say that many of the posts here are the unvarnished, non-fairy tale version of life with A.D.D. 

Hope you come buy again and read some of the slightly more sanguine posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E,</p>
<p>I agree that it can&#8217;t be (shouldn&#8217;t be) all doom-and-gloom. If it was&#8230;well&#8230;I wouldn&#8217;t be plugging away at this blog and many people wouldn&#8217;t be leaving comments. Let&#8217;s say that many of the posts here are the unvarnished, non-fairy tale version of life with A.D.D. </p>
<p>Hope you come buy again and read some of the slightly more sanguine posts.</p>
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		<title>By: E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s nice to read an honest account of this thing, and a counter to the ADHD-is-a-gift brigade. Thanks. I have felt this way at many times. That said, I hope you don&#039;t feel this way *all* the time. 


Look I know this is trite, but unless you can find some positive way to approach things, then why not just end it right now? 

It sucks, but it&#039;s the way you/we are, and so learn to  deal with it. Everyone, &#039;normals&#039; included, need a bit of self-delusion to keep going sometimes. It&#039;s a fine balance.
 

Shit it&#039;s late.  I came to your blog via the great huffpost article, and I&#039;m happy to have found some non-bullshit discussion of this. I recently found this great article, from 1987 no less, that contains some of the best subjective descriptions I have read:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/11/magazine/out-of-a-darkness.html

Thanks again, and keep at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s nice to read an honest account of this thing, and a counter to the ADHD-is-a-gift brigade. Thanks. I have felt this way at many times. That said, I hope you don&#8217;t feel this way *all* the time. </p>
<p>Look I know this is trite, but unless you can find some positive way to approach things, then why not just end it right now? </p>
<p>It sucks, but it&#8217;s the way you/we are, and so learn to  deal with it. Everyone, &#8216;normals&#8217; included, need a bit of self-delusion to keep going sometimes. It&#8217;s a fine balance.</p>
<p>Shit it&#8217;s late.  I came to your blog via the great huffpost article, and I&#8217;m happy to have found some non-bullshit discussion of this. I recently found this great article, from 1987 no less, that contains some of the best subjective descriptions I have read:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/11/magazine/out-of-a-darkness.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/11/magazine/out-of-a-darkness.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks again, and keep at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Attention Deficit Déjà Vu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attention Deficit Déjà Vu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] opponent of the growing idea that ADD/ADHD is somehow a &#8220;gift&#8221;, in a post entitled, Adult ADD as a Form of Madness, blogger Jeff describes the way an ADDer can seem to live the same, unproductive day over and over: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] opponent of the growing idea that ADD/ADHD is somehow a &#8220;gift&#8221;, in a post entitled, Adult ADD as a Form of Madness, blogger Jeff describes the way an ADDer can seem to live the same, unproductive day over and over: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wrong when I commented about being &quot;Brubaker&quot;. I am doing it again&gt; Judging people too quickly, and assuming that everyone will agree with me. I think I am so smart sometimes, and end up being the one who needs to learn, instead of the teacher.

This may be why I am so frustrated with myself, about the comments I make, that sound so &quot;out of touch&quot; with the subject. I want to take the subject to the next level, and control the meaning of the message. But I don&#039;t learn the meaning of first level, which is the original message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong when I commented about being &#8220;Brubaker&#8221;. I am doing it again&gt; Judging people too quickly, and assuming that everyone will agree with me. I think I am so smart sometimes, and end up being the one who needs to learn, instead of the teacher.</p>
<p>This may be why I am so frustrated with myself, about the comments I make, that sound so &#8220;out of touch&#8221; with the subject. I want to take the subject to the next level, and control the meaning of the message. But I don&#8217;t learn the meaning of first level, which is the original message.</p>
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